@Orthocat True. I am just happy that Pope John Paul 2 made it infallible so there would not be any doubters. Thanks.

@Tisbe Galaad Yes you quoted the 5th commandment in Exodus. God wrote it in stone. Thank you.

God Bless you

@frawley... Curiosity wants me to ask you what 225 dogmas did you read that does not include the condemnation of abortion. Why would you be unsure of this infallible condemnation since it directly follows the 5th Commandment Thou shall Not Murder. I had no idea that "faithful" Catholics did not know this. Also your old, worn-out cliche at the end is not helpful.
Here it is...
To the truths of the first paragraph belong the articles of faith of the Creed, the various christological dogmas21 and marian dogmas;22the doctrine of the institution of the sacraments by Christ and their efficacy with regard to grace;23the doctrine of the real and substantial presence of Christ in the Eucharist24and the sacrificial nature of the eucharistic celebration;25the foundation of the Church by the will of Christ;26the doctrine on the primacy and infallibility of the Roman Pontiff;27 the doctrine on the existence of original sin;28the doctrine on the immortality of the spiritual soul and on the immediate recompense after death;29the absence of error in the inspired sacred texts;30the doctrine on the grave immorality of direct and voluntary killing of an innocent human being.31
PROFESSION OF FAITH…
31 Cf. John Paul II, Encyclical Letter Evangelium Vitae, 57: AAS 87 (1995), 465.
Pope John Paul 2 actually made it infallible twice in Evangelium Vitae. The first is paragraph 57 as noted in the reference 31 and also 62 which I added below as further proof.
Paragraph 62…
Therefore, by the authority which Christ conferred upon Peter and his Successors, in communion with the Bishops-who on various occasions have condemned abortion and who in the aforementioned consultation, albeit dispersed throughout the world, have shown unanimous agreement concerning this doctrine-I declare that direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, always constitutes a grave moral disorder, since it is the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. This doctrine is based upon the natural law and upon the written Word of God, is transmitted by the Church's Tradition and taught by the ordinary and universal Magisterium. No circumstance, no purpose, no law whatsoever can ever make licit an act which is intrinsically illicit, since it is contrary to the Law of God which is written in every human heart, knowable by reason itself, and proclaimed by the Church.
Most Catholics are like you, ignorant of the infallible condemnation and that abortion should be regarded as seriously as the founding of the Catholic Church by Christ which you never do.

@frawley...The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches that apparitions are private revelations. They may help believers live out the faith more deeply, but they are not part of the deposit of faith and Catholics are not required to believe them.

@chris griffin Chris I think that you do not fully understand "infallibly defined dogma". We as Catholics are required to believe many things outside of infallibly defined dogmas such as scripture, the ten commandments, the catechism ect. I think you used the term improperly. I think we ALL agree that abortion is a very grave mortal sin.

@frawley .... You are not allowed to define the meaning of infallible dogmas to fit your personal beliefs. That is dangerous to your soul.
1. This is my exact quote that you are disputing…”The condemnation of abortion is an infallible doctrine of the Catholic Church equal in authority to all the Marian dogmas and the founding of the Catholic Church by Christ.”
This is an official list of Vatican infallible dogmas…
“To the truths of the first paragraph belong the articles of faith of the Creed, the various christological dogmas21 and marian dogmas;22the doctrine of the institution of the sacraments by Christ and their efficacy with regard to grace;23the doctrine of the real and substantial presence of Christ in the Eucharist24and the sacrificial nature of the eucharistic celebration;25the foundation of the Church by the will of Christ;26the doctrine on the primacy and infallibility of the Roman Pontiff;27 the doctrine on the existence of original sin;28the doctrine on the immortality of the spiritual soul and on the immediate recompense after death;29the absence of error in the inspired sacred texts;30the doctrine on the grave immorality of direct and voluntary killing of an innocent human being.31
31 Cf. John Paul II, Encyclical Letter Evangelium Vitae, 57: AAS 87 (1995), 465.
Plus Paragraph 62…
Therefore, by the authority which Christ conferred upon Peter and his Successors, in communion with the Bishops-who on various occasions have condemned abortion and who in the aforementioned consultation, albeit dispersed throughout the world, have shown unanimous agreement concerning this doctrine-I declare that direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, always constitutes a grave moral disorder, since it is the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. This doctrine is based upon the natural law and upon the written Word of God, is transmitted by the Church's Tradition and taught by the ordinary and universal Magisterium. No circumstance, no purpose, no law whatsoever can ever make licit an act which is intrinsically illicit, since it is contrary to the Law of God which is written in every human heart, knowable by reason itself, and proclaimed by the Church.
My quote and the Vatican listing match up 100%, that cannot be denied. I have underlined the 3 dogmas in question that are all infallible.
You have no right to question the Vatican list of infallibles or change their meaning or interpretation.
5. The first paragraph states: "With firm faith, I also believe everything contained in the word of God, whether written or handed down in Tradition, which the Church, either by a solemn judgement or by the ordinary and universal Magisterium, sets forth to be believed as divinely revealed". The object taught in this paragraph is constituted by all those doctrines of divine and catholic faith which the Church proposes as divinely and formally revealed and, as such, as irreformable.11
These doctrines are contained in the word of God, written or handed down, and defined with a solemn judgement as divinely revealed truths either by the Roman Pontiff when he speaks 'ex cathedra,' or by the College of Bishops gathered in council, or infallibly proposed for belief by the ordinary and universal Magisterium.
These doctrines require the assent of theological faith by all members of the faithful. Thus, whoever obstinately places them in doubt or denies them falls under the censure of heresy, as indicated by the respective canons of the Codes of Canon Law.

@Jeffrey Ade
Here is the Vatican Profession of Faith showing that the condemnation of abortion is listed alongside all the Marion dogmas and the founding of the Catholic Church by Christ…
PROFESSION OF FAITH…
11. Examples. Without any intention of completeness or exhaustiveness, some examples of doctrines relative to the three paragraphs described above can be recalled.
To the truths of the first paragraph belong the articles of faith of the Creed, the various christological dogmas21 and marian dogmas;22the doctrine of the institution of the sacraments by Christ and their efficacy with regard to grace;23the doctrine of the real and substantial presence of Christ in the Eucharist24and the sacrificial nature of the eucharistic celebration;25the foundation of the Church by the will of Christ;26the doctrine on the primacy and infallibility of the Roman Pontiff;27 the doctrine on the existence of original sin;28the doctrine on the immortality of the spiritual soul and on the immediate recompense after death;29the absence of error in the inspired sacred texts;30the doctrine on the grave immorality of direct and voluntary killing of an innocent human being.31
31 Cf. John Paul II, Encyclical Letter Evangelium Vitae, 57: AAS 87 (1995), 465. Pope John
Pope John Paul 2 actually made it infallible twice in Evangelium Vitae. The first is paragraph 57 as noted in the reference 31 and also 62 which I added below as further proof.
Paragraph 62…
Therefore, by the authority which Christ conferred upon Peter and his Successors, in communion with the Bishops-who on various occasions have condemned abortion and who in the aforementioned consultation, albeit dispersed throughout the world, have shown unanimous agreement concerning this doctrine-I declare that direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, always constitutes a grave moral disorder, since it is the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. This doctrine is based upon the natural law and upon the written Word of God, is transmitted by the Church's Tradition and taught by the ordinary and universal Magisterium. No circumstance, no purpose, no law whatsoever can ever make licit an act which is intrinsically illicit, since it is contrary to the Law of God which is written in every human heart, knowable by reason itself, and proclaimed by the Church.
Most Catholics are like you ignorant of the infallible condemnation and abortion should be regarded as seriously as the founding of the Catholic Church by Christ which you never do.
You do not know infallible doctrine from optional beliefs. The Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC 67) explicitly states that private revelations, including apparitions, “do not belong to the deposit of faith” and therefore belief in them is non-obligatory. Catholics are free to accept them if the Church judges them authentic, but they are never mandatory for salvation. In contrast, denying the condemnation of abortion is heresy against the Catholic Church.

Sounds non obligatory to me!

@Jeffrey Ade
You are in a very dangerous position.....(all below is on the same page and applicable to you.
(5) Code of Canon Law, Canon 750 – Those things are to be believed by divine and catholic faith which are contained in the word of God as it has been written or handed down by tradition, that is, in the single deposit of faith entrusted to the Church, and which are at the same time proposed as divinely revealed either by the solemn Magisterium of the Church, or by its ordinary and universal Magisterium, which in fact is manifested by the common adherence of Christ’s faithful under the guidance of the sacred Magisterium. All are therefore bound to avoid any contrary doctrines.
These doctrines require the assent of theological faith by all members of the faithful. Thus, whoever obstinately places them in doubt or denies them falls under the censure of heresy, as indicated by the respective canons of the Codes of Canon Law.12
These doctrines are contained in the word of God, written or handed down, and defined with a solemn judgement as divinely revealed truths either by the Roman Pontiff when he speaks 'ex cathedra,' or by the College of Bishops gathered in council, or infallibly proposed for belief by the ordinary and universal Magisterium.
These doctrines require the assent of theological faith by all members of the faithful. Thus, whoever obstinately places them in doubt or denies them falls under the censure of heresy, as indicated by the respective canons of the Codes of Canon Law.12
Such doctrines can be defined solemnly by the Roman Pontiff when he speaks 'ex cathedra' or by the College of Bishops gathered in council, or they can be taught infallibly by the ordinary and universal Magisterium of the Church as a 'sententia definitive tenenda'.14 Every believer, therefore, is required to give firm and definitive assent to these truths, based on faith in the Holy Spirit's assistance to the Church's Magisterium, and on the Catholic doctrine of the infallibility of the Magisterium in these matters.15 Whoever denies these truths would be in a position of rejecting a truth of Catholic doctrine16 and would therefore no longer be in full communion with the Catholic Church.

"or by its ordinary and universal Magisterium, which in fact is manifested by the common adherence of Christ’s faithful under the guidance of the sacred Magisterium." I believe that!

@Jeffrey Ade the condemnation of abortion is listed with the Marian dogmas and the founding of the Catholic church by Christ...they are in the same category you cannot deny that.
You are wrong...i already have shown you paragraph 62 which explains what the Pope wrote....It follows the 5th commandment how could it not be infallible!
"This doctrine is based upon the natural law and upon the written Word of God, is transmitted by the Church's Tradition and taught by the ordinary and universal Magisterium." paragraph 62

@Jeffrey Ade...Now I see why you go off the rails on Catholic teaching sometimes.