When Attending Mass Becomes an Occasion of Sin

When Attending Mass Becomes an Occasion of Sin 'A priest enters the confessional for the usual Saturday morning or afternoon confession time. During this time a young man enters the confessional. '…More
When Attending Mass Becomes an Occasion of Sin
'A priest enters the confessional for the usual Saturday morning or afternoon confession time. During this time a young man enters the confessional.
'Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned.' From the sound of the voice on the other side of the screen, the priest surmises that the person is a teenager or young adult.
The confession continues: 'It was a week since my last confession. I'm guilty of many lustful thoughts, and I looked at some very immodestly dressed women more times than I should have.'
'The priest asks, 'Were these impure thoughts related to these women you looked at'?
''Yes,' replies the young man.
'The priest: 'Why did you continue to look at them? Why didn't you go someplace else, away from them?'
''I couldn't,' said the young man. 'They were in front of me and I was kind of hemmed in by the crowd.' 'The priest: 'Why were you in such a place to begin with? Do you remember that we are to avoid places that may be an occasion …More
Proof2G
"I see that the English language and the intricacies therein, might be a problem for you given that you are Eastern European."
- there's no problem, I understand English well. Though I know Am.E. better, but the difference is insignificant. (concerning my english - if you're so scrupulous then I should correct myself: I meant you were wrong about me.)
"Regarding Jesus, He died once for all on the …More
"I see that the English language and the intricacies therein, might be a problem for you given that you are Eastern European."
- there's no problem, I understand English well. Though I know Am.E. better, but the difference is insignificant. (concerning my english - if you're so scrupulous then I should correct myself: I meant you were wrong about me.)

"Regarding Jesus, He died once for all on the Cross for all sin (past, present and future). God took flesh.."
- nice to know you understand that.
But! It must be emphasized that Jesus wants everyone to look sacredly.
ACLumsden
I see that the English language and the intricacies therein, might be a problem for you given that you are Eastern European. Therefore, I shall only say that the point is that sin affects people. Because sin affects people, it concerns God.
Regarding Jesus, He died once for all on the Cross for all sin (past, present and future). God took flesh to take on our sin while remaining sinless, so that …More
I see that the English language and the intricacies therein, might be a problem for you given that you are Eastern European. Therefore, I shall only say that the point is that sin affects people. Because sin affects people, it concerns God.

Regarding Jesus, He died once for all on the Cross for all sin (past, present and future). God took flesh to take on our sin while remaining sinless, so that in this flesh, He might destroy sin. This has happened once for all; the effects of which ripple through sacred time such that every Mass places us at the saving Passion, Death and Resurrection of the Christ. Our glorified flesh now sits at the right hand of the Father in Glory in the Person of Jesus the Christ.
Proof2G
ACLumsden, I've ment you were wrong about me.
Considering the Holy Scripture - of course I do not reject the fact that man can have impure thoughts because of someone's appearence. Considering your remainder words - do read HS more attentively, because God rather strictly emphasises on the manner of clothing, and also, my dear friend, every sin affects greatly Jesus, in every moment of His suffering …More
ACLumsden, I've ment you were wrong about me.
Considering the Holy Scripture - of course I do not reject the fact that man can have impure thoughts because of someone's appearence. Considering your remainder words - do read HS more attentively, because God rather strictly emphasises on the manner of clothing, and also, my dear friend, every sin affects greatly Jesus, in every moment of His suffering and pain till nowadays.
P.S. And ACLumsden, my comments are always competent and qualified. I do not comment just for "writing".
gdacumos
@ACLumsden: I read your passage more than once and it made sense. Indeed, the intentions, that what makes a sin. Adam and Eve were naked until they ate the fruit of good and evil.
ACLumsden
Proof2G - Gosh, I do remember you from some time ago. You posted rather superficial and unlearned comments, and here you are doing the same.
I disagree with you. Scripture is all about the relationship between God and man, and between men. Sin does not affect God, He is quite above all of that; sin does affect men! Sin however, affects the relationship between God and man and between men. This is …More
Proof2G - Gosh, I do remember you from some time ago. You posted rather superficial and unlearned comments, and here you are doing the same.

I disagree with you. Scripture is all about the relationship between God and man, and between men. Sin does not affect God, He is quite above all of that; sin does affect men! Sin however, affects the relationship between God and man and between men. This is the important thing, this is what Greg and I have been saying.

Therefore, the inconsiderate attire of BOTH men and women at Holy Mass migh cause a brother or a sister to have impure thoughts. THIS is why immodesty is sinful; that it negatively affects our brother/sister.

God made us, can our human flesh be bad, can the beauty of our bodies be sinful in God's sight? This is a heresey, namely, Catharism....do take care.

🤗 😇
soundingjoy
Dear Holyrope3,
Thank you for the beautiful post as well concerning this issue of dress. God deserves our best when we approach His Holy Place, and so our children and grandchildren must be taught "Holiness unto the Lord." Bless you in the heart of Christ for sharing truth with us.
Proof2G
ACLumsden, you are wrong. read The Holy Scripture more attentively.
holyrope 3, you are completely right! That's hard to find more profound and exact explanation of this sin. Thank you, I've read it admiringly.More
ACLumsden, you are wrong. read The Holy Scripture more attentively.

holyrope 3, you are completely right! That's hard to find more profound and exact explanation of this sin. Thank you, I've read it admiringly.
soundingjoy
Dear Gregory,
With great love, you share and rightly divide the Word of Truth to our hearts concerning the ever growing inappropriate dress as we come into the Holy House of God to worship, and receive repentance.
Proverbs 31:30
Charm is deceitful, and beauty is vain, but the woman who fears the Lord, she shall be praised.
Focusing on the eternal things, we would leave the world behind, thus teaching …More
Dear Gregory,
With great love, you share and rightly divide the Word of Truth to our hearts concerning the ever growing inappropriate dress as we come into the Holy House of God to worship, and receive repentance.
Proverbs 31:30
Charm is deceitful, and beauty is vain, but the woman who fears the Lord, she shall be praised.
Focusing on the eternal things, we would leave the world behind, thus teaching our children and grandchildren the precious wisdom of purity, and Godliness. Thank you for your post as it must be shared with all.
In Christ,
Soundingjoy
mrsh
I absolutely agree that many young women are inappropriately dressed while attending the Holy Mass; truly sad that they have such a lack of respect for the House of God and for themselves! However, to say that women should not have attractive hair, or wear nice clothing, and pearls I believe goes a bit too far. Surely modesty is important, but at the same time, men (and women as well) should be able …More
I absolutely agree that many young women are inappropriately dressed while attending the Holy Mass; truly sad that they have such a lack of respect for the House of God and for themselves! However, to say that women should not have attractive hair, or wear nice clothing, and pearls I believe goes a bit too far. Surely modesty is important, but at the same time, men (and women as well) should be able to control their thoughts. My suggestion...keep your eyes fixed on Jesus, our Lord and Savior on the cross!
ACLumsden
@greg - Indeed brother. 👍
holyrope 3
In regard to modesty in dress and deportment, let us first consider what the Holy Bible has to say on this subject: "In like manner I wish women to be decently dressed, adorning themselves with modesty and dignity, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, but with good works , such as become women professing Godliness." (1 Tim. 2:9-10)
Modesty should be promoted by mothers in …More
In regard to modesty in dress and deportment, let us first consider what the Holy Bible has to say on this subject: "In like manner I wish women to be decently dressed, adorning themselves with modesty and dignity, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, but with good works , such as become women professing Godliness." (1 Tim. 2:9-10)

Modesty should be promoted by mothers in their children from early infancy. Many foolish mothers train their little daughters to consider scanty attire as the normal thing. Let mothers take to heart the serious admonition of Pope Pius XII: "O Christian mothers, if you knew what a future of anxieties and perils, of ill-guarded shame you prepare for your sons and daughters, imprudently getting them accustomed to live scantily dressed and making them lose the sense of modesty, you would be ashamed of yourselves and you would dread the harm you are making for yourselves, the harm which you are causing these children, whom Heaven has entrusted to you to be brought up a Christian."

Let us listen to the Holy Ghost speaking to us again in the Holy Bible: "Do not love the world, or the things that are in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him; because all that is in the world is the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life; which is not from the Father, but from the world. And the world with its lust is passing away but he who does the will of God abides forever." (1 St. John 2:15,17)

Our Sorrowful and Immaculate Mother, who in all her apparitions is fully covered, is presented by her divine Son to us as the perfect model of modesty and purity. She is terribly saddened by the immodest and impure conduct so prevalent in our society. Our Lord speaks to us through His Blessed Mother in condemning the modern trends of uncovering the body. In fact, Our Lady came down from heaven to warn against this disrobing trend. She revealed to little ten-year-old Jacinta of Fatima while she was dying in a hospital in Lisbon, Portugal, in 1920: "Certain Fashions will be intoduced which will offend Our Divine Lord very much. Those who serve God ought not to follow these fashions. "Our Lord is always the same." And she also revealed to Jacinta that "the sins that lead most souls to hell are the sins of the flesh." ✍️
ACLumsden
I rather think "cloth[ing] disgusting and offensive" to YOU. The sin is not that we offend God, but rather, as the Gospels say, that we offend our bretheren. (If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off; If your eye causes you to sin, gauge it out....etc. and in other place: he who scandalises the least of these little ones, it would be better that a mile stone be hung around this person's neck …More
I rather think "cloth[ing] disgusting and offensive" to YOU. The sin is not that we offend God, but rather, as the Gospels say, that we offend our bretheren. (If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off; If your eye causes you to sin, gauge it out....etc. and in other place: he who scandalises the least of these little ones, it would be better that a mile stone be hung around this person's neck and he be cast into the sea!)
Proof2G
Priest are the ones who ought to teach people how to dress correctly not only to look modest before Jesus in Church during the Mass or attending some other religious measure, but also in their everyday life. That is so awful that young girls or the worst - old ladies wear cloths disgusting and offensive to God.
But responsable for this are religious persons. It is their duty to teach people most of …More
Priest are the ones who ought to teach people how to dress correctly not only to look modest before Jesus in Church during the Mass or attending some other religious measure, but also in their everyday life. That is so awful that young girls or the worst - old ladies wear cloths disgusting and offensive to God.
But responsable for this are religious persons. It is their duty to teach people most of such urgent things and what a shame if a priest ignores to preach these virtues fearing to offend someone or to hear back misanderstanding or even be subjected to criticism.
gdacumos
In my parish, most women who are assigned for gospel reading wear short skirt, almost backless dresses, exposed cleavage. If wearing pants, they use tight clothing which exposes the shape of their body. Sure, they got all the attention! They humiliate themselves in the presense of the Most High and the parishoners. So sad that no body cares about them to tell them that they are so humiliating and …More
In my parish, most women who are assigned for gospel reading wear short skirt, almost backless dresses, exposed cleavage. If wearing pants, they use tight clothing which exposes the shape of their body. Sure, they got all the attention! They humiliate themselves in the presense of the Most High and the parishoners. So sad that no body cares about them to tell them that they are so humiliating and they think to themselves they are soooo beautiful and attractive. Well, time to write to my parish leaders, I will see if anyone would care to propose dress codes.
JTLiuzza
This is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed in the vast majority of parishes in the US. And for the guys, lose the shorts, tshirts and flip flops. Put on some slacks, dress shoes and at the very least a collared shirt, but better with a tie and jacket. Dress like a man, not like a little boy going to a picnic.
tbswv
Sad to say that I have also seen immodesty at Traditional mass. Receiving Our Lord, body, soul, and divinity dressed like you are going to camp is not preferred. If these young people were meeting the Pope I wonder if they would dress the same way. Parents are to blame for this. Often times I hear, "well let me them be kids." These same people "mature" to adulthood. And they carry their lack of …More
Sad to say that I have also seen immodesty at Traditional mass. Receiving Our Lord, body, soul, and divinity dressed like you are going to camp is not preferred. If these young people were meeting the Pope I wonder if they would dress the same way. Parents are to blame for this. Often times I hear, "well let me them be kids." These same people "mature" to adulthood. And they carry their lack of modesty to their children. Priests need to be firm in the pulpit. Talking during communion, dressing immodestly, and leaving church before the priest finishes the mass. A devout priest should not be popular but lead souls to sanctity.
We need fearless priests after the model of St John Vianney.