With regard to Francis' statements, Seewald said that he "always has two tracks." At one point he praises Benedict and even calls him a “great pope,” then again he belittles him, calling him a grandfather, a fatherly friend or even a “transitional pope.” This duality can be explained by the fact that Francis wanted to break “from the continuity of the popes” and cause chaos from the beginning. "He demonstratively showed who was the master of the house by removing the access to the Old Mass that Benedict had liberalized. The Pope Emeritus had to find out about this from the newspaper. This was due to the supposedly 'warm relationship' between the two," continued Seewald.